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		<title>By: Martin Samuel says what every sane person already knows - England</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Samuel says what every sane person already knows - England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] European and South American counterparts. I&#8217;ve written about this before on TheOffside.com (check it out here) but Martin Samuel makes a particular persuasive point, especially in describing the size of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: b-man</title>
		<link>http://leeds.theoffside.com/leagues/premiership/englands-national-team-a-rant.html#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>b-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abby I wouldn&#039;t be surpried one bit if these Arsenal youngsters turn out to be some of the technically best players this country has ever produced. However, it will be no good as they will have to &#039;chip and chase&#039; whenever they play for England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abby I wouldn&#8217;t be surpried one bit if these Arsenal youngsters turn out to be some of the technically best players this country has ever produced. However, it will be no good as they will have to &#8216;chip and chase&#8217; whenever they play for England.</p>
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		<title>By: Abby</title>
		<link>http://leeds.theoffside.com/leagues/premiership/englands-national-team-a-rant.html#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do wonder how Gerrard&#039;s Liverpool teammates feel about his statements. All but Carragher, that is.

There was something I read about a few of the Arsenal academy players who play for the England U-17 team. They said that they find it difficult playing for England, because at Arsenal they&#039;re taught to pass and move while at England it&#039;s more of the kicking the ball up to the big guy style. 

It&#039;ll be interesting to see if those kids make it, and then what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do wonder how Gerrard&#8217;s Liverpool teammates feel about his statements. All but Carragher, that is.</p>
<p>There was something I read about a few of the Arsenal academy players who play for the England U-17 team. They said that they find it difficult playing for England, because at Arsenal they&#8217;re taught to pass and move while at England it&#8217;s more of the kicking the ball up to the big guy style. </p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see if those kids make it, and then what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: jz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say the US has the same problem--except even more drastic.  This blog had an interesting take on the American system of talent development.

http://www.thisisamericansoccer.com/general/from-feilhaber-to-football/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say the US has the same problem&#8211;except even more drastic.  This blog had an interesting take on the American system of talent development.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thisisamericansoccer.com/general/from-feilhaber-to-football/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thisisamericansoccer.com/general/from-feilhaber-to-football/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re completely right about Ronaldinho and Messi - I honestly don&#039;t think they&#039;d have made it through the youth system in England. It&#039;s a shame, really, with football as popular as it is in England, that kids are so let down by the system - I think that&#039;s what most annoys me about comments like Steven Gerrard&#039;s. English kids simply aren&#039;t good enough for the Premier League, and rather than patronising them by imposing a quota we should be working to improve the standard of coaching and the mentality shown towards the game at a youth level so that kids with the potential to be like Ronaldinho, Messi (insert skillful foreign player here) make it through the system and have a chance to turn professional.

On a related note, I&#039;ve heard that young players in Brazil don&#039;t actually play full, 11-a-side football until they&#039;re much older, and generally play Futsal as youth players. Anyone know if that&#039;s true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re completely right about Ronaldinho and Messi &#8211; I honestly don&#8217;t think they&#8217;d have made it through the youth system in England. It&#8217;s a shame, really, with football as popular as it is in England, that kids are so let down by the system &#8211; I think that&#8217;s what most annoys me about comments like Steven Gerrard&#8217;s. English kids simply aren&#8217;t good enough for the Premier League, and rather than patronising them by imposing a quota we should be working to improve the standard of coaching and the mentality shown towards the game at a youth level so that kids with the potential to be like Ronaldinho, Messi (insert skillful foreign player here) make it through the system and have a chance to turn professional.</p>
<p>On a related note, I&#8217;ve heard that young players in Brazil don&#8217;t actually play full, 11-a-side football until they&#8217;re much older, and generally play Futsal as youth players. Anyone know if that&#8217;s true?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t listen to fools like Bernd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t listen to fools like Bernd.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that young English players arent taught to be great technical players. Theyre built to be athletes with a very English way of looking at the game. Im in 6th form and am a student in PE. A level PE should be a very high level of playing and everyone should be of a good technical quality. Instead we are taught to hoof the ball up to our one centre forward and sprint in attempt to win the second ball.

I also played in the Liverpool Academy for two years and it was the same there. Rather than practicing technique in training, we&#039;d do fitness tests and sprints. While I thouraghly understand that speed and strenght is essential in the modern proffesional game, I do believe that any player with an abundance of flair is groomed into simply an athlete. I used to beat people for fun, C.Ronaldo style, however I remember my coach shouting at me saying play it first time in the box, or give it back to the full back etc.

Could you imagine that in Brazil? A young Ronaldinho beats 5 men and deliveres a good ball only to be subbed at half time because he lost the ball once (I no from experience). I think if the likes of Messi had been English he&#039;d of struggled to make it.

From the age of 11 playing in the Everton academy i&#039;d always been told to &#039;play it safe&#039;. This is the reason we develop players like Jenas. Would he be a constant in the France squad, the Italy squad, the Brazil squad etc? No. He gets up and down the pitch well. He keeps possession well. Nothing else. 

This moves me on to my next point. The fact that possession football is unheard of in the English game. Fair enough it makes it entertaining but it really is ridiculous. If a team in England (youth level) is 1-0 down they will look for the immediate ball forward. Usually into the feet of the big Cyril Regis like striker who will lay it back. 

Teams always say they love playng against England because 30 seconds after England win the ball they&#039;ll give it straight back.

Oh and by the way, nice blog mate, you are a good writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that young English players arent taught to be great technical players. Theyre built to be athletes with a very English way of looking at the game. Im in 6th form and am a student in PE. A level PE should be a very high level of playing and everyone should be of a good technical quality. Instead we are taught to hoof the ball up to our one centre forward and sprint in attempt to win the second ball.</p>
<p>I also played in the Liverpool Academy for two years and it was the same there. Rather than practicing technique in training, we&#8217;d do fitness tests and sprints. While I thouraghly understand that speed and strenght is essential in the modern proffesional game, I do believe that any player with an abundance of flair is groomed into simply an athlete. I used to beat people for fun, C.Ronaldo style, however I remember my coach shouting at me saying play it first time in the box, or give it back to the full back etc.</p>
<p>Could you imagine that in Brazil? A young Ronaldinho beats 5 men and deliveres a good ball only to be subbed at half time because he lost the ball once (I no from experience). I think if the likes of Messi had been English he&#8217;d of struggled to make it.</p>
<p>From the age of 11 playing in the Everton academy i&#8217;d always been told to &#8216;play it safe&#8217;. This is the reason we develop players like Jenas. Would he be a constant in the France squad, the Italy squad, the Brazil squad etc? No. He gets up and down the pitch well. He keeps possession well. Nothing else. </p>
<p>This moves me on to my next point. The fact that possession football is unheard of in the English game. Fair enough it makes it entertaining but it really is ridiculous. If a team in England (youth level) is 1-0 down they will look for the immediate ball forward. Usually into the feet of the big Cyril Regis like striker who will lay it back. </p>
<p>Teams always say they love playng against England because 30 seconds after England win the ball they&#8217;ll give it straight back.</p>
<p>Oh and by the way, nice blog mate, you are a good writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley Cole, world class?  You&#039;re having a laugh.

Of course Leeds have done their part in helping the situation.

Don&#039;t cut your nose despite your face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley Cole, world class?  You&#8217;re having a laugh.</p>
<p>Of course Leeds have done their part in helping the situation.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t cut your nose despite your face.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Matthew. Points well made and very true. Chelsea has a wealth of foreign talent yet Terry, Lampard, both Coles are making the first team. Reducing the number of foreign players may increase the playing time at better clubs for English nationals, but you&#039;re right, if England is relying on the premiership to develop &#039;talent&#039; then they&#039;re missing the boat. It has to start at the lower levels.

How many English players play abroad at any big clubs? Virtually none. Owen tried, Beckham had arguably the most success. Owen Hargreaves was the anomaly in that he didn&#039;t make his name in England before shipping off overseas. There&#039;s a real sense that if an English player is playing overseas he&#039;ll get overlooked for international duty. But it&#039;s also rare to have foreign clubs even interested in English players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Matthew. Points well made and very true. Chelsea has a wealth of foreign talent yet Terry, Lampard, both Coles are making the first team. Reducing the number of foreign players may increase the playing time at better clubs for English nationals, but you&#8217;re right, if England is relying on the premiership to develop &#8216;talent&#8217; then they&#8217;re missing the boat. It has to start at the lower levels.</p>
<p>How many English players play abroad at any big clubs? Virtually none. Owen tried, Beckham had arguably the most success. Owen Hargreaves was the anomaly in that he didn&#8217;t make his name in England before shipping off overseas. There&#8217;s a real sense that if an English player is playing overseas he&#8217;ll get overlooked for international duty. But it&#8217;s also rare to have foreign clubs even interested in English players.</p>
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